Hey all. This blog records my thoughts of the day about my life on the Eclipse CDT project. I will occasionally give opinions and news regarding the Eclipse CDT - the project and its ecosystem - and on open source in general. Please feel free to comment on anything I say. I appreciate it when people are honest with me. And, please, please, consider all of these opinions mine, not of my employer.
Saturday, June 30, 2007
Re: Don't try this at home
So after switching to the Sun JRE, things are much better, even on my Core Duo laptop. And I was able to run it successfully on my 666MHz beast of a machine, albeit, it was still pretty slow, but no worse than everything else that runs there...
Friday, June 29, 2007
Introducing - "CDT for Windows"
Well, I am pleased to announce "CDT for Windows". This is a distribution of the Eclipse Platform and the CDT with the MinGW GNU tool chain for Windows and a Java Runtime wrapped up in a simple Windows installer. With a few clicks you'll be up and running debugging a C++ application.
The distribution is on SourceForge at http://cdt-windows.sourceforge.net/. It's currently at version 0.9.1 and contains the Europa Platform and CDT 4. My objective is to get it at a 1.0 level by the end of September with CDT 4.0.1. I have also included the SDL portable multi-media library. My hope is to get the wxWidgets portable application library into it as well.
As with the CDT, I really want to build a community around "CDT for Windows", mainly since I'm doing most of the work in my spare time (I've got a lot of work to do at QNX and the CDT too, you know :) and need to share the work, which really hasn't been too much so far. I've only done light testing so feel free to give it a spin, raise any issues you may find in the SourceForge tracker.
I think it looks pretty slick for something that only took me a couple of days to put together. I hope you find it useful as well.
CDT 4, Now Available!
Download instructions are available on our web site as well. There are lots of other ways to get it too. The Eclipse download site has the Eclipse Platform and the CDT in a single zip file. If you are on Linux, I'm sure you'll see it soon in your favorite distribution. If you are on Windows and want to build Windows application with GNU tools, check my other announcement ;).
Wednesday, June 27, 2007
Don't try this at home
Whatever the minimal required machine for Eclipse is, this ain't it. What a mess. It took forever to do anything. And all I did was create our Hello World project, build, and fire up the debugger. Now, I am using Apache's Harmony JRE which is still pre-release, so maybe that's not helping. But it's amazing to see what memory starvation does on big software.
One thing I've heard off and on over the years is people complaining about the sluggishess of Eclipse and the CDT, especially on older Unix machines that had multiple users sharing resources. Now I see why. Luckily, developers using Eclipse usually have plenty of horse power and memory anyway and this isn't as big an issue as it was a few years ago. But we still need to watch out. Even running the CDT on my 512MB, 1.8 GHz AMD Linux test machine at work has issues.
Saturday, June 23, 2007
CDT 4, and so it begins
I have a webinar scheduled for July 12 and I invite you all to attend. I'll be walking through all of the features of the CDT with focus on what's new. I hope you'll be as impressed with the new CDT as I am.
But for now, I need some sleep. It won't be too long before I need to get back to work bringing CDT 4 to my QNX customers and start planning for next year and CDT Ganymede (the next Jupiter moon after Europa you know, at least that's what they tell me...).
Tuesday, June 19, 2007
Fun with ANTLR v3
The latest shiny object is the new ANTLR version 3, a fancy new parser generator. I've followed ANTLR with interest for a few years and we almost used it for CDT's parser back in the 1.x days. But at the time we felt that hand coding was the only way we could successfully deal with C++ ambiguous statements (e.g. x * y, is that expression, or a declaration of a pointer to x).
The new version comes with an LL(*) parsing mechanism that uses infinite lookahead (the *) to decide what rules a sentence matches. If you aren't familiar with what all that means, Terence Parr, the author of ANTLR, has written a great book that explains it all for you. The book itself is interesting since right now there is very little documentation other than the book. But it's only $24 dollars for the "non-dead tree" PDF version and is an interesting way to help fund the work.
But, this is essentially how Johnny C and I wrote the CDT parsers. We start at the high level concepts and break them down into finer grained detail until you get to the individual characters, creating an Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) along the way. You can base interpretation choices on where you are in the analysis and by looking ahead into the source stream as much as you need. It's a very powerful technique.
With ANTLR, however, you can specify the grammar at a higher level and have it generate a lot of boilerplate code for you. It may be the one parser generator tool that can convince me that it's better than hand coding. But to figure this out, I decided to try building a parser. Mike and the CDT guys at IBM are already working on a C parser using LPG, an LR parser generator (LR is bottom up, which, while faster, doesn't allow you to easily use context information when resolving rules, I prefer LL) and extending it for UPC, Unified Parallel C. And since I need to resolve some extensibility issues for GNU versus MSVC, and having a lot of experience in the past, I decided to try a C++ parser.
Now if ANTLR can handle that, I'm sold. It'll be an interesting journey and should allow me to try out some ideas on improving how we did some of the things in CDT's parser. Also this is just a prototype and I don't really plan on replacing CDT's parser with it. But it will help me learn ANTLR more and help me help others in the Eclipse community who want to use it. And who knows, another shiny object may fly by and take me on a totally different tangent anyway...
Thursday, June 14, 2007
More word on massive multicore
So now the press is trying to figure out how Intel will productize that. I think the article asks some pretty irrelevant questions, like "Will they be x86 cores? Will they run today's applications?" And the response is that they are working on it to make it easier for programmers to deal with.
But I think that's a mistake. Why would you run your favorite e-mail program on an 80 core machine? Eclipse, now that I can see, especially if you've ever debugged a run-time workbench and saw 30+ worker threads going at it. But really all we're doing there is taking the same old paradigm and stretching it beyond it's limits. The hardest bugs I've had to solve were when multiple threads were contending for the same resource and someone forgot to synchronize them. Happens time and time again.
No, 80 cores are great. Mix that with 128 stream processors like those on the latest GPUs, and there's some massive horsepower that we can take advantage of. You can hide all the complexity behind good compilers and run-times, but I don't think you'll get all the benefits of the hardware. I continue to believe that we need some new programming paradigm where we stop thinking of programs as a sequence of operations and more like a network of data flows. Turning to objects was the first step, but I think there's further we can go.
Wednesday, June 13, 2007
A new way to get your CDT
Well, the past couple of weeks I've had to change some things. The first one is to meet Europa's guideline of having our jars digitally signed for security. That way, when you download the CDT, you know you're getting the officially blessed version from Eclipse. I think the risks are pretty low, but it is possible for someone to make a set of zips that look like the CDT but aren't and do something nasty things. The infrastructure created by the Eclipse team makes it easy to do the official signing so I figured why not.
The other issue we've been running into lately is the sheer size of the CDT builds. They passed the 400 MB mark with all 9 platforms and the two main features, runtime and sdk, that we build. With only 10 GB (now 15 GB) of disk quota at eclipse.org, we kept bumping into the limit and constantly needed to clean up builds. When you take a close look, the 9 platforms are almost identical except for the small shared libraries that we have in the cdt.core fragments. The update site, as a result, is much smaller, around 40 MB, since you don't get that duplication.
So while I was wearing my release engineer hat anyway, I figured I'd fix all this. The recommended way to get the CDT is using our update site. We will have the runtime feature, the main one that you download, on the Europa update site. That feature along all of the others will also be on the CDT Europa update site. All this will be explained on the CDT's website when we release. The jar files will also be compressed using pack200 to make downloads a lot faster and save bandwidth on the Eclipse servers and mirrors.
The other big change is that we will no longer be releasing feature and platform specific zip and tar.gz files. Instead, we will have a single zip file called the CDT Master that is an Archived Update Site. So you can install normally via our update site on Eclipse.org, or you can download this zip and install it, still using the update manager, but from the zip file instead. We are currently doing our nightly builds this way, and it works well.
This will hopefully make the CDT easier to get up and running while saving a lot of space and bandwidth for Eclipse. It's good all around, but it is a change and, as always, I'd like to hear your feedback on it.
Friday, June 08, 2007
Happy 5th Anniversary CDT!
Newsgroups: eclipse.tools.cdt
Subject: [ANN] - CDT project changes
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 17:20:34 -0400
The Eclipse Tools PMC is pleased to announce some exciting developments to the CDT project hosted on eclipse.org. First, QNX will be contributing some C/C++ core technology from their recently announced product to eclipse.org. We believe that this will enhance the value of the technology hosted on eclipse.org and bring some industrial strength technology into the CDT project.
And so it began. Five years ago yesterday, the new CDT project was born. The QNX team had just gone through six months or so of compressed development in a remote location affectionately called the "Toolshed" (we're known as the Tools team). They had basically gone from nothing other than the source to Eclipse and JDT to come up with a fully functional C/C++ IDE. But QNX is an RTOS and run-time company. Tools enable that business but take a huge investment to do really well, and it was becoming clear that a lot of good can come if we would share the work and benefits of that work with others in the open. A handful of other vendors liked what QNX had done and worked together on starting this new direction for the CDT.
A meeting was held at QNX headquarters on July 17'th of that year in what turned out to be the first ever CDT Summit. In attendance were people from QNX, Rational, Red Hat, and MontaVista. From day one, we enjoyed the spirit of "co-opetition", co-operating competators, that still lives strong today. Here's a fuzzy picture of Sebastien Marineau from QNX on the right, the first CDT project lead, who really got this whole thing off the ground. He's sitting with John Prokopenko, a senior architect/manager from Rational and a mentor of mine.

I was at Rational at the time and this was my first exposure to the new CDT. And as we know now, it became a career changing moment for me. Who knew then that I'd spend the next five years living out a dream of mine, to make a software development tool that would help thousands of software developers write better code faster. I wouldn't have passed that up for anything.

There are many people to thank for getting us here, including Sebastien and the team here at QNX for having the vision to share their great work with the world. To my former co-workers at Rational/IBM (who coincidentally I had lunch with today) for helping get this crazy DOM thing in place. To the gang at Intel (especially Leo!), TimeSys, Chris at TI now at IBM, and everyone else who formed that initial spurt of a community outside the original two, to all the product vendors and users and contributors that now form what I estimate to be our 400,000 member CDT community.
Thank you all! And happy 5th anniversary!
CDT 4, What a difference a community makes
Over the last year, this has all changed. With the great bug reports we've been getting from the community and the volume of patches we've been getting from contributors, and the great work of our army of committers, I am happy to say that CDT 4.0.0, is the first .0 release of the CDT that I feel really good about. I'm sure everyone will be pleased with it from our open source community to the vendors that adopt it.
In the spirit of openness, I have to admit I have been very dissatisfied by our previous .0 releases. And I think I need to share what happened so that we can learn from it. Here are the "lowlights" of previous CDT .0 releases (BTW, the CDT 1.x.0 series actually went pretty well, so we'll start with 2):
- CDT 2.0.0 - first introduction of our new parser-based indexer and search. This was a dramatic change to the way we did indexing and the start of our performance woes. In fact I rewrote the CDT scanner (tokenizer) in 2.0.1 since it was brutally slow. We also introduced a new build model that wasn't really ready for prime time and really needed to be exercised with more tool chains.
- CDT 2.1.0 - This release was to meet one of the contributing vendor's product needs and was done while the other vendors were focused on the next release. It was a bit difficult to watch the extent of work they were doing mainly on their own. This really showed the need to standardize our releases (thanks Callisto, Europa, etc!) and how the model we had been following can't scale as the number of contributing, and consuming, vendors increase.
- CDT 3.0.0 - This was the big DOM release. Again, massive changes to the indexing and search framework done by one vendor. Even worse, that vendor later had to withdraw its resources on that massive bulk of code due to business reasons. This really showed us the need to have a diverse set of committers working on each component. Contributors will come and go, and you need to build a robust community to survive it.
- CDT 3.1.0 - Yet another new indexing framework. With the contributors to the original index gone, I took it upon myself to finally throw out our failing assumptions, 100% correctness as a requirement being the big one, and focus on a new strategy to address performance. At the end of the day, this new strategy is the right one and correctness was still pretty good. The problem was that I did it myself and bit off more than I can chew. It was an absolute necessity to get it done, though, but I did do a lot more work for 3.1.1 to make it product quality.
It's been a while ride over the last 5 years on the CDT (BTW, it was 5 years yesterday, I need to blog about that too!). I think we've learn a lot from it, probably enough to write a book about it. Being in the open, I hope others can learn from it too. At the end of it all, I think the most important aspect of any software platform project, commercial or open source, is that of community. And the most important job of a project is to build that community. And that there is probably nothing harder to do than build a community. As our industry goes through this shift, we really need more examples of what to do and what not to do. Then, hopefully, we won't have to always go through pain like this.
Monday, June 04, 2007
Some CDT Stats and Memories
The other number that caught my eye is the estimated 176 person years of effort to build all this. I'm not really sure how they got that number but looking at the breakdown by developer, it seems pretty reasonable. At a loaded labour rate of $150K US, that's about a $26M investment, which points back to the main reason I think the CDT is successful commercially. Not many companies could afford to do that on their own.
Taking a look at the contributors list, also reminded me of all the people that have worked on the CDT over the years, 32 in total. And although some have moved on, their contributions were huge and still pay a important role in the CDT today (thanks, John and Alain!). And we have new blood to take over and they are quickly catching up, especially the gang from Intel and Wind River, and the new team at IBM and Symbian are starting to role, and of course, our debug keepers from ARM, Nokia and Freescale.
On the eve of our biggest release, CDT 4.0, it was nice to sit back for a moment and think of all the great contributions we've received and the great people we've worked with over the last 5 years that play such a big part in getting us where we'll be tomorrow.
Linus on source control systems
Despite his crass style, Linus does make a lot of points I have to agree with:
- CVS sucks. SVN tries to be a better CVS, but the problems are so fundamental and SVN doesn't make enough strides to make it much better than CVS.
- Merge is the key feature of any source control system. We've gotten used to CVS's weakness at merge and Eclipse's CVS support helps a lot. I actually think the SVN Eclipse plug-ins are a step backwards since I haven't seen a successful merge with them yet.
- Source control systems should allow everyone write access, at least on branches. I would love it if everyone who customized the CDT could do it in our main repository so we can see what they did and make it easier to incorporate their improvements. I'm not sure that is even possible in CVS and it requires central administration at least in SVN. I guess with Linus's GIT, allowing this is it's number one advantage.
I'm actually a big fan of Rational's ClearCase because of it's ability to manage branches and merges. It was a behemoth to manage, and a lot of people found it hard to work with, but I really appreciated the ability to work in a private branch and make occasional merges back to the main line. I'll definitely want to look at GIT and see how it compares. Of course, we would need an Eclipse plug-in to work with it...
BTW, when I visited Google during EclipseCon, I saw this stage. It's in their cafeteria and you can see people getting drinks in the background. I wonder how many other cool visitors they get like this.
Thursday, May 31, 2007
Now there's a screen I can live with
So, I'm not promoting the product. Yes, I know people from Palm who are contributing to Eclipse and the CDT, which I'm sure they're using in conjunction with this product. But I think it could the be the start of a trend. Everyone loves smartphones and getting their mail in Blackberry's and such, but the size of the screen and keyboard on these devices really limits their usefulness beyond their mobility. People still need laptops to do their real work.
But I think there's room in the mobility market for devices like this one. The embedded system-on-a-chips are there now to do it. And I think you'll even see games on these things with the 3d capabilities of these chips. With solid state memory like SD cards getting bigger and cheaper, these could be really useful little machines. Palm was first and it fits their niche, but I wonder if anyone else will take the plunge and make a more generally useful "mini-laptop."
Wednesday, May 30, 2007
UML Action Semantics, Naturally Parallel
The idea according to Jim was to provide a sort of assembly language that all software behavior could map to. But I thought it provided a more powerful concept, that of the Action itself. An Action is a unit of behavior that has inputs, does some processing, and produces outputs. The outputs of one action feeds into the inputs of other actions. The "Ah-ha" is that all actions that have their inputs satisfied theoretically run in parallel.
This concept isn't new. Hardware designers have been thinking this way forever. I believe Petri nets present a similar idea in mathematical terms. But what struck me was this was a really powerful paradigm that can make it easier for programmers to write highly parallel programs. What was needed, though, was a good, 2-dimensional programming language that allowed programmers to create actions and hook up the inputs and outputs quickly and, of course, with minimal typing. But something like that really wasn't an objective for UML.
It's probably one of the reasons I'm keenly watching Eclipse's Modeling project. Aside from a great framework for creating domain specific languages, it has the capabilities that would be needed to build this "Action" language. And with a good back end that produced code for today's multi-core clusters, I really think this could be a good way to help programmers meet Intel's challenge that "Software has to double the amount of parallelism that it can support every two years" to catch up to the what the hardware guys are doing.
Monday, May 28, 2007
How Different Are Linux Distro's anyway?
With Linux, it really is next to impossible to do that. Novell and Red Hat do fill in that role as commercial Linux vendors that provide a stamp of approval over their versions of all the packages that go into a Linux distribution. But, really, none of the developers I know that are using Linux are using any of those commercial Linux'es. They're using Fedora, OpenSuSE, and more lately Ubuntu. It really is impossible to validate your products against all the possible combinations of Linux that your customers may want to use.
But, I then ask the question, so what? How different are these distributions anyway that makes it so hard to support Linux. Yes, you may have version differences in the packages, and things like the major versions of GTK can break under GUI applications like Eclipse. Also, it's pretty confusing the number of different ways to set up user's environment variables, but then applications shouldn't be relying on that anyway. I really wonder if there's much else that can affect most software products.
It bugs me every time someone tries to explain away a bug with, sorry, that version of Linux isn't a reference platform so we can't look at your problem, especially when the person is using a recent distro like Ubuntu. But it really does speak to the challenges that software vendors face with the fragmentation of the Linux market. But I guess it's part of the price we pay for "freedom".
Friday, May 25, 2007
cdt-dev is my office
RC2 was no different. This morning we had two left. Ken from Austin, Texas gave an update on his asking for feedback. I, from Ottawa, Canada gave some feedback for him to go ahead and fix it. Bala from London, England mentioned he had a patch ready for his and Mikhail from Russia replied saying he was looking at it. I'm confident we'll be ready in a couple of hours to fire off the build and get the RC out by the end of the day.
This happens regularly on the CDT and once in a while I stand back and think of what just happened (and I think I've probably blogged about this before too). We have a very effective development team working on the CDT, and the cdt-dev mailing list is the backbone of that collaboration. A lot of groups use different technologies such as instant messenger or IRC channels, but for us the cdt-dev mailing list works great. Bugzilla comes in at a close second. But then, we treat bugzillas as mini mailing lists anyway.
I think the biggest benefit of the cdt-dev list is that it's open to anyone. If you want to see what's happening with the CDT at a high level, that's the place to go. If you want more detail, then you really got to watch the bug reports and signing up to receive notifications on the cdt-*-inbox accounts are the best way to catch the train.
From my experience on the CDT, the most important tool you have to build a community is open communication, like mailing lists, forums, IRC. As your community grows, the only way to really talk to them all is via open communication, so it really forces you down that path and you end up doing it anyway. But in the early days, it was a hard habit to get into, especially when QNX was by itself, or even when I was at Rational and we started working with the QNX gang who were only a 5 minute drive from the Rational office. But open communication has really paid off in the end for the CDT and the reach of our cdt-dev mailing list impresses me time and time again.
Tuesday, May 22, 2007
Open Source Ripped?
It's actually a very interesting article. When I finished it, I had to remind myself of the title. In the end, I wasn't sure if he was for or against open source. His general thesis seems to be that open source is a tool used by small companies to gain market share against big companies. Yes, he's right. I've seen that. There are a lot of smaller companies shipping a world class IDE with their products making them more attractive. They leverage open source (i.e. Eclipse) to do it to lower costs since building a world class IDE is prohibitively expensive for most. I think it's a great business model. I guess he was just looking at it from the big proprietary company side.
There are a couple of areas where I have to disagree with Howard, though. He mentions open source is a "religion". Well in some circles, I guess open source participants see it that way. Certainly from the outside it looks like Richard Stallman is playing the part of a religious leader, and FSF is his church.
Howard also seems to believe that the people writing open source are doing so at night when they come home from their real jobs of working on proprietary software. But that's not what I do as an open source developer. Open source is my day job. The company I work for is one of those companies that is reaping the benefits of the open source business model, and is willing to invest in open source to help build a community where we can share the work with each other. And there are lots of developers like me from many companies. Open source is not a religion to us, but a business means to a business end.
So while it'll probably be impossible to shake the stigma of the open source "religion" from what we do, open source in the spirit of "co-opetition" (co-operating competitors) is a vital tool available to the commercial world. Some communities are set up for this to work well, like Eclipse, while others, not as much (and I won't name them unless over a beer :). But the ones that are, seem to be the ones that the big proprietary companies fear the most. Which means we must be on to something...
Thursday, May 17, 2007
Bye-bye 32-bit Windows
Maybe this will finally trigger people to focus more on 64-bit and start writing programs with that in mind. The biggest change for C/C++ programmers is the size of pointers changes. I've seen a lot of code that assumes you can merrily cast a pointer into an int and back and everything is happy. One example of this is with Java native code where we like to stow away pointers in Java fields for later calls back into native-land. Well with 64-bit, while the size of pointers change, the size of int does not. I'm also hearing that there are different interpretations of the sizeof(long) where on some platforms it's 64-bits, but on others it stays as 32. Then there's long long (gcc) and int64 (msvc) which in the 32-bit world also means 64-bits.
Suffice it to say that the 64-bit world gets a little messy. We'll think back to the simple days of 32-bit with a sigh. But then, I think things will still be better than the now ancient 16-bit world was (now who's old enough to remember that?). Now they say that this will start after 2008, but given the length of time it took to get Vista out, people with 32-bit only machines shouldn't worry too much. They'll be ready for the dumpster by then anyway. And do we really need another operating system version beyond Vista? Microsoft hopes so, and I'm sure they'll use the 64-bit push as a marketing ploy to help you think so too.
Wednesday, May 16, 2007
Eclipse Wants You!
I guess the point I was really trying to make is that we as the Eclipse community outside of the Platform have depended too much on IBM/OTI's great contributions, to the point where we expect them to fix all of our problems. My experience with open source projects is that it just doesn't work that way.
Open source developers usually work on open source projects for a reason. They are trying to get something done for themselves, and really as a side affect they hope that others will find it useful as well and maybe come help out. Because open source software is free, I think people start to think it's more like a charity, but it isn't. And I think this is even a bigger factor with Eclipse since the vast majority of developers are employed to work on Eclipse projects. They respond to the community as much as they can, but at the end of the day, if their empoyer asks them to work on something else, that has to have priority.
So if you have a bug that isn't getting the attention you think it deserves, please think of the people at the other end. There's a good chance it's not because they think you're problem isn't important, but that they have probably been assigned work elsewhere and really just don't have the time. Do as much leg work as you can. Create a really good bug report that has a patch and a really good justification that shows you thought about the fix as much as the committer would have. Make it as easy for the committer to fix your problem as you can.
And if you find you really depend on certain functionality that isn't being provided or bugs that you really need fixed, and you do enough great patches, you can become a committer too. The more committers we get from different employers, the better off we'll all be. That kind of redundancy is important in open source and is something we've really learned to appreciate on the CDT project.
Tuesday, May 15, 2007
I love bugs from playstation.sony.com
Forget OO, C++ is a better C
So, I guess this code was written originally with Visual Studio 6 many moons ago. However, continuing with my theme of using MinGW for Windows development, I've created makefiles to build the spawner DLL. What made this situation a little weird was that the original creators of the spawner were guys who didn't really know C++, so they did it in C. I always find it weird doing C in VS, but that's what these guys did. So when I wrote the makefile, I used make's default of running gcc on these files. Makes sense.
However, I was having trouble when I added a calls to a couple of Windows routines. I was getting undefined references at link time to the two calls I added. Weird, I didn't get any compile errors. When that happens it usually means I forgot to add the library. So I added it and still got the errors. What's going on here? Is it something broken in the MinGW port of these libraries? Was my code just getting tired and cranky?
Well for some reason, maybe I was getting tired and cranky, I wondered if it was because I was using C instead of C++. Part of my debugging technique is to start assuming the least likely cause and testing it out. This was really damn unlikely. But I tried it out. I changed the compiler to be g++ and ran it over the .c files. I thought it would have treated them as C files and nothing would really be different.
But to my surprise, g++ compiled the .c files as C++. And I got a ton of errors. And almost all the errors were for passing the wrong types to functions, especially since I was using UNICODE and not everything was really using wchar_t. Well, no wonder things weren't working. Of course the one thing it found were compile errors with the two functions I was calling. I had forgot to add the include to the header that defined them which specified the correct calling convention, WINAPI, which is why I was getting the link errors in C. But then C was happy to play along without having to see the declarations of the functions and made some bad assumptions. I wasted a good couple of hours trying to figure out what was wrong.
So, forget the object-oriented, templates, namespaces, operator overloading, and all the other cool features of C++, C++ at its core is just a much better C. It has proper type checking that helps you find those errors before link time, or worse, run time. It all feeds into helping you build better software faster, which is what this whole tools industry is all about. And if you've programmed in C++ for years and have to go back to C, don't forget to make that paradigm shift back to the 80's...
Monday, May 14, 2007
A lesson in release management
Well, guess what happened. The customers got excited, too. They didn't want to buy the old switches anymore, they wanted the cool new one. Unfortunately, the dates ended up getting delayed and that spelled trouble since sales of the old switches were drying up. Lesson learned, though, and you notice a lot of companies holding back release information for that very reason.
Well, I think the same thing is happening to the CDT. For the first three months of this year, we've been hovering around the 65,000 downloads mark. It's not our biggest. That happened last October and November when we hit 85,000. But it was steady.
Well, I just did the numbers for April and found them at a disappointing 55,000. Maybe it's just a glitch. Maybe people are happy with getting the CDT from other places, like Linux distributions.
But it makes me wonder if this is a side-affect of CDT 4. We've been making a lot of noise about it, and we're finding that a lot of people are using the CDT 4 milestone builds, especially starting at M6 which just happened to be at the beginning of April. I haven't been counting the milestone builds in our figures.
We'll see how May's numbers are, but it would be interesting if we're seeing the pre-announcement affect in open source projects too. And I guess, why not?
gdb is a-calling
Now that I got it working, though. I am finding that when you suspend gdb, both the cygwin version and the mingw version, that you end up in a pretty useless state. The stack trace has gdb totally confused. The addresses don't even look like real addresses. I thought for a moment that it was because of something I did in the CDT. But when I tried it from the command-line I got the same result. I did a Google search and looked at the cygwin and mingw forums and couldn't find anything useful. Maybe no one cares. Maybe it's my machine. Who knows (do you?).
At any rate, it has led me down a path to take a deeper look at how gdb is implemented and try and debug it myself. This is something that I've wanted to do for a while. We use gdb as our debugger in QNX Momentics so I may be able to help out our gdb guys too. It'll also give me something else to test the CDT with. I'm not sure we've tested Makefile projects enough in CDT 4 so this will give me a chance to do that. My focus will be on MinGW gdb and it would be cool to be able to contribute any fixes I come up with, or even a port to the latest gdb back to these guys.
Friday, May 11, 2007
AMD does big parallel, too.
The demo was doing real-time face recognition on passers-by. It really shows that what used to be done as batch jobs can now be done in real-time with consumer massively parallel systems. We always wonder why we need more horse power - my web browser is working fine on my 3 year old system at home. But I think we're hitting a tipping point for a number of really cool applications that will change the way Joe Consumer looks at computers.
Which makes me even more excited to get into the raytracing hobby time project I've started to show off the CDT as an IDE for "really cool stuff". Now, to figure out how to get one of these machines :)
Sunday, May 06, 2007
Need some faster floating point?
In researching my recent blog entry on raytracing, I found a sweet elegance that I always look for in computer architectures. The algorithms are pretty straightforward, albeit pretty compute intensive, so the barrier to entry into this area seems low enough that I can work on it when I get a chance. It also looks to benefit immensely from parallel processing, another interest of mine, and will get me into that area as well. That, and the demos I saw showed some wicked shadow affects that really added to the realism of scenes, so it'll be cool to show off as a CDT demo as well (as opposed to the spinning polygons I use as an SDL/OpenGL demo right now that you may have seen at ESC).
My first step was to build a vector class that does math with 3D vectors, a critical component of all graphics programming. The sample I was looking at used regular C++ floating point arithmetic with a vector composed of a float for each of the three axis.
class vector {
public:
vector(float _x, float _y, float _z)
: x(_x), y(_y), z(_z) { }
void operator +=(const vector & v) {
x += v.x; y += v.y; z += v.z;
}
private:
float x, y, z;
};
Pretty basic. But this is the first example of an algorithm that can benefit from parallelism. Since I have a fairly new laptop, I wondered if I could leverage SSE, Streaming SIMD Extensions to implement this. I also wondered how well gcc and the MinGW variant I'm using handles SSE. So I gave it a try.
class vector {
public:
vector(float _x, float _y, float _z) {
float array[4] __attribute__((aligned(16)))
= { x, y, z, 1 };
xyz = _mm_load_ps(array);
}
void operator +=(const vector & v) {
xyz += v.xyz;
}
private:
__m128 xyz;
}
The constructor is a bit more complicated. And with most things dealing with SSE, 16 byte alignment is critical for good performance. And looking at the generated assembly, I was pleased to see that gcc, after making sure I put the -msse2 option on the compile, worked hard at keeping the instances of __m128 aligned like that. The performance tests I ran with addition showed an O.K improvement in performance, especially as the number of math operations grew. But when I tried multiplication instead of addition, the performance gains were astronomical. Well worth the extra typing.
Now that I've got that under my belt, I can't wait to actually draw something...
Thursday, May 03, 2007
They're great, but are they open enough?
Now first of all, don't get me wrong, I am one of the biggest fans of the gang at IBM's OTI office (still more OTI than IBM they are) and a lot of them are good friends. The quality of the platform and the great extensibility it offers is what has made Eclipse what it is today. We'd all still be in the dark ages if it wasn't for their great work.
And, you know, I think they've come a long way as far as working in the open goes. When we started the CDT, it was really hard to know what they were doing and many times we were surprised by API and functionality changes in milestone builds that required us to scramble to fix up. I think on both sides, CDT and Platform, we've gone that extra mile to make sure we communicate better as committers. We've even received patches from the Platform team to make sure we didn't break when changes did occur.
The thing that has me concerned was highlighted in a mail that just came across on the eclipse-dev list from Kim Moir (sorry Kim, you're just the messenger). "I just talked to McQ regarding the plan. This is what he said... -Component leads can make rules more strict as they see fit..." And the mail goes on a bit longer to talk about the endgame rules for accepting changes.
Now it is my understanding that it's really up to the individual projects to decide what their development processes are, and I guess this is what the Eclipse project (or was it the Platform sub-project) has decided their processes to be. And you know, looking at the rules McQ has set out, they really are trying to give more power to the committers and my first was reaction was that this was a positive step in the right direction.
But, personally, in my role as the CDT Project Lead (which is also a sub-project which makes me a peer to McQ, who is IBM's Mike Wilson, BTW), the last thing I want to do is dictate to my committers what the endgame rules would be. Actually the last thing I want to do is dictate anything. Maybe it's just the way I am, but I feel the responsibility for the processes and guidelines falls with the committer group as a whole. If they don't agree, I'm actually powerless to stop them anyway so I'm really just a facilitator. Mind you, to make sure we have rules, I usually suggest something and if I get no feedback, which happens a lot, we assume everyone agrees. But in the end it should be the committers that decide.
Obviously the Eclipse team is set up differently. A lot of it is historical and due to the organization of the team, both as an Eclipse PMC as an an organization at IBM. But I would really like to see the Eclipse team open up their processes and decision making more and be a bit more transparent.
CDT 4.0 RC0 Now Available
This is by far the biggest CDT release we've done since the first one as far as the number of new features go which, of course, introduced a lot of risk as far as introducing bugs as well. We also need to be careful about backwards compatibility too so that users can use their old workspaces with the new CDT. The best way to help us out right now is to download the RC0 build and give it a try and raise bugs on any problems you find. Visit the CDT web page to find out how.
I've signed up to do a webinar mid July to show off the new CDT. It'll probably take that long to learn it all, too...
Tuesday, May 01, 2007
Ubuntu + Dell, Significant? You betcha.
I think this is actually a huge deal for Linux on the desktop and there are a couple of reasons why I think this will fly. First of all, Ubuntu is hugely popular in the Linux world, especially with people who are, not necessarily zealots, but really want to get into Linux with low overhead. And from what I can see, and apparently what Dell has found out, that's a lot of people. I'm probably in that category and a lot of the articles I've read about Ubuntu are written by people in that category too.
The second big reason why this is different is the support deal with Canonical. Essentially, you can use Ubuntu on a Dell system without worrying about whether the drivers will work with all the hardware you're buying. This has always been my major stumbling block with Linux (other than the crappy fonts :). I had Linux running on a Dell laptop five years ago and struggled to get things like suspend and the graphics display working correctly. This should address that. And the deal will ensure Canonical has a vested interest in making sure it works.
And vested they are. This has to be huge for Canonical. I always wondered how they intended on making money given all the investment they've made in Ubuntu to make it consumer friendly just to give it away for free. This is it, and I shouldn't be surprised. I've always thought that you can't make money on Linux by selling it in a box. You make money selling services or other products that leverage Linux, just as we do with Eclipse.
This has clearly been Canonical's strategy and they've started down a road where it'll pay off. Making Ubuntu consumer friendly has actually created a market for Linux PCs. Dell is just responding to the desires of that market. Mind you, it's not for the weak at heart and it really was a huge gamble, but luckily for Canonical, their CEO Mark Shuttleworth came with deep pockets to make it happen. But happening it is.
Monday, April 30, 2007
Zero to breakpoint in 10 seconds
Here's how:
- File->New Project.
- In the New Project Wizard, select C++ -> C++ project, click Next.
- Select the Executable project type, clicking the + and selecting one of the Hello World templates and if more than one Toolchain is listed, pick one. Type in the Project name and click Next.
- Fill in the form with information the template needs to generate your Hello World app, click Finish (or next to play with the build configurations, but the defaults are fine).
- Click the Build button in the toolbar, wait for the build to finish.
- Click the Debug button (one click debugging!) and accept the switch to the Debug perspective.
And you're done. The debugger hits the default breakpoint on main and you are set to go.
Give that we're not done yet with CDT 4, there is a caveat at the moment. The one click debugging only works with the MinGW integration. To set that up, simply run the MinGW compiler and gdb installers from www.mingw.org, or have MinGW installed in C:\MinGW. The CDT will automatically pick up the install location. We'll get the other ones (Cygwin, Linux, etc) working as by the time CDT 4 ships at the end of June.
You can't do that with Java
It's really the flexible memory management that I miss the most. Allocating memory out of the heap is expensive. That's pretty common knowledge. With Java, every Object gets allocated out of the heap. I remember the first time I ran into this early in my Java career. I had this little class that had a couple of fields that I used to store temporary information that got passed down to some other methods. I couldn't believe that I had to allocate it out of the heap. With C++ it had become second nature to declare an object and have it automatically allocated on the stack. And when the function I declared it in finished, whether due to a return or an exception, the destructor for the object gets called so you can clean up any mess. And using C++ pass by reference, I was able to do all that with minimal typing (my other mantra - I hate typing, especially with my sore finger right now).
The other cool feature of C++ is the ability to override the operator new to do your own memory management. That way you can allocate all instances of a class in a special memory pool. Or pass parameters to operator new to do anything you want. I've run into this as I've started looking closer at ray tracing algorithms (my new hobby). One of the speed ups they mentioned was allocating all contents of one of the structures in a given memory region to help leverage CPU data caches in an effort to squeeze every ounce of performance out of the machine as they can (which is really needed to get any resemblance of real-time ray tracing on today's machines). Now that's something you can't do in Java, at least not without some native code, which then isn't really Java.
Java has it's place and I love it for writing Eclipse plug-ins. But despite bold predictions by the IT industry, C/C++ will never go away as long as we continue to throw as much processing at these fancy new CPUs and GPUs as we are. For some reason, our appetite for speed continues to outstrip all that performance that the silicon vendors are working so hard to put in our hands.
Friday, April 27, 2007
Bug 160012 - The CDT Team at Work
Another component that we've been eagerly waiting for was the new project template support proposed by the gang at Symbian in London. This allows us to gather some information in the New Project wizard and generate source files and build settings based on a template. Now this proposal actually occurred pretty much in parallel with Intel's build system work, and given that, they didn't really take each other into account.
Well, once the build system was in place with M6 at the beginning of April, it was time to mesh them together. I am thrilled with how this has worked out. It was not an easy task as we had to undo assumptions that had been made. Not to mention the time frame was short with feature freeze being this weekend. But it was great to see how well the two groups worked together along with the odd input from us over here in North America. To see for yourself, check out the bug report for 160012 where the discussions happened. At last count, there were a 110 comments on it, some of them pretty lengthy.
I've done "around the world" development in a commercial setting but never at this level and never this successful. Every morning, I wake up and sift through a pile of bug updates that my friends in Europe and India have sent out. We then get a few hours where we're actually at work at the same time and the bug traffic is pretty heavy in the morning. But then tails off towards the end of the day. You always have to think about what time it is elsewhere (even though someone may still be working late - go to bed Mikhail S! :).
I think that it's a sign of a successful open source project when you have contributors from around the world with diverse needs but all fighting through the time differences to work together for the common good of the project. This is really the main reason I love working on the CDT. Helping create the world's best and hopefully soon, most popular, C/C++ IDE is pretty good too...
Wednesday, April 25, 2007
Subclipse withdraws? Someone tell Bjorn...
I got involved in this Subclipse versus Subversive debate when we were discussing moving to subversion on the cdt-dev mailing list. In the discussion of Eclipse clients, I mentioned that when I tried them I preferred Subversive. And actually, with some recent trials I did for work, I still prefer Subversive. Mark made a somewhat nasty reply to my comments. He made me feel bad for going against Subclipse. And in my searches for other peoples opinions, I more often than not saw him comment the same in support of Subclipse, and I'm sure he'll comment here. I certainly commend him for standing up for his project and I sometimes do the same for the CDT, but I try to be more polite about it.
So, I guess that means Subversive wins at Eclipse. From my seat, and others have a right to disagree, but I am talking about my seat not theirs, having one project is a good thing. In reality, I don't care who wins, but I do care that we produce a good subversion client for Eclipse and I don't see how two competing projects helps anyone. They do, or are intended to do, the exact same thing. In fact, they almost look identical. I almost had to check the features list to make sure which one I had.
But I think we have a long way to go to get subversion client support up to the same capabilities as CVS. Having one project that we can all work on will help make that happen. My intention is recommend moving the CDT to subversion over the summer, but only if the client meets our needs. That means we on the CDT have a vested interest in making that happen. And I know how to make patches and attach them to bugzillas, so I can't wait to get some time on it. And I will spend time on Subversive because it is an Eclipse project. So will others in the Eclipse community, because of that sense of community that is Eclipse. That's something I think the Subclipse guys forgot to take into consideration.
Tuesday, April 24, 2007
Ray tracing the future of Gaming
I remember back in university almost 20 years ago now a couple of buddies of mine that were doing ray tracing for their graphics class. The images they produced were pretty cool and realistic for the time. But it took overnight to generate one frame. Mind you that was on good old Sun 3's, but you certainly wouldn't think of doing this in real time, even today.
The ray tracing demos you'll find in PC Perspective article and at the OpenRT site are amazing, though. From what I've read, doing shadows in current technologies like OpenGL or DirectX is very difficult and game developers almost always take short cuts, which leaves the scenes a bit unreal. But with ray tracing, it appears to be much easier and the scenes appear much more believable, which is the end goal for all 3D animation.
What's changing is the march towards many multi-core CPUs by Intel and AMD. One of the big advantages of ray tracing it the scalability of the algorithms to parallel threads. Each pixel is determined independently of the other pixels. All you need to do is partition the screen to the cores and you get almost linear scalability in performance.
Now, mind you, the demos I saw, especially the one from the OpenRT site, used a lot of cores, mainly 32 and one was even at 48. But I imagine there's opportunities for improvement given this early stage, and even for some hardware acceleration for parts of the algorithm. But if you were wondering what you were going to do with that quad-core furnace of a chip, here's one idea. And it's pretty interesting to see that Intel caught on to this idea a couple of years ago.
Sunday, April 22, 2007
Ubuntu 7.04, has Linux's time come?
But I have a buddy, Rodney, at work who swears by Linux, especially Ubuntu. So much so, he has it installed on his laptop as his main work environment. Of course, I keep bugging him about how ugly I think it all looks, and he fires back with the cool 3D/alpha blending environment of the latest experimental extensions to X and Gnome. It's all good fun, but at the end of the day I'm happy to walk back to my desk and sit at my Windows machine.
I've been playing with the beta release of VMware Workstation 6. I'm a big fan of vmware from way back and every new major release seems to bring something new that makes me like it even more. This release brings a new UI that makes running vmware full screen a lot easier to use and more Windows friendly. The performance seems to be a bit better too, but then lately it's been pretty good anyway. I use vmware to run the x86 target of our Neutrino RTOS for testing with a target. And, of course, I use it to experiment and test with a Linux host.
So to get up and running on the vmware beta, I downloaded the latest Ubuntu 7.04 release. Rodney's been raving about it so I had to give it a try. The Ubuntu install experience is the best I've seen with any Linux distro. You boot up into a full Linux/Gnome environment off the CD, and then double click the Install icon to launch the installer. Just coming up cleanly off the Install CD gives you confidence the real thing is going to work. After that, it's just a matter if making sure all the packages you need are there. This is still a pretty harsh task that's not intended for the weak. But the package manager helps install those things quickly (once you properly guess at the names of the packages you need, like sun-java6-bin ?).
The look is still not up to Windows standards, but it seems to get better every time I try a new distro. Maybe I'm just getting more open to the idea of using Linux. Certainly if you're an engineer who knows a lot about *nix already, like taking advantage of Linux's features for embedded development such as mounting files as disks, then I think you'd be happy with the latest Ubuntu. But if you're my Mom, sorry Mom, stay on Windows. At least for now...
Friday, April 20, 2007
Fun with JTAG
JTAG debugging does have limitations. It's not overly fast, especially when compared to native debugging. Stepping through code takes around a second in the setup I have. And with most configurations, the JTAG debugger hardly works at all once virtual memory is turned on in the CPU, making process level debugging, as you normally do with OS's like Windows, Linux, QNX, etc, impossible. The biggest value of JTAG in the past has been for the initialization code that sets up the board and starts the operating system kernel. But that is starting to change though as JTAG debugger makers are figuring out how to do the virtual to physical and back translation and adding OS awareness in the debugger itself allowing for the full debug experience.
So I have the integration working now. With permission, I borrowed a lot of ideas from the Zylin Embedded CDT plug-in. Again, my hopes are to bring those guys and their customers on board to avoid the need for forking the CDT. It was pretty cool when I did my first debugger launch, and everything just worked. This is really the beauty of Eclipse and the CDT and the focus on extensibility, that makes adding new features a breeze.
Below is a picture of my set-up. I have a little TI OMAP board hooked up to a Abatron BDI2000 JTAG device hooked up to a network hub that eventually hooks up to my laptop. You can't see the screen, but trust me :), the CDT has reset the board, loaded in an image, started it up, and hit the breakpoint I had set. And you get all the CDT goodness like the variables, registers, and disassembly view. Tres cool!
My next step is to hook up qemu, the board emulator, with it's built in gdb remote stub, which works just like a JTAG device, to this whole thing so you can try it out without having to fork out money for real hardware...
Tuesday, April 17, 2007
F3, the CDT Wunder-Key
Well, I'm trying to do the same thing with the CDT. Before CDT 4, Open Declaration tended to be slow since it did a complete parse of the file you're viewing and all the files that it includes. With CDT 4, we're now only parsing the file and using the CDT index to get all the other declarations needed for that file.
As well, F3 tended to be hit and miss on whether it actually found anything. A lot of that had to do with the indexer's need for build information that is often hard to provide. Also a lot had to do with information that we hadn't collected yet, C++ template information for example.
With CDT 4, F3 promises to be a whole lot better. I'll be spending a bunch of my time as we start to wrap up CDT 4 development on making sure it finds as many definitions as it can so that it can be as useful to CDT users as it is for JDT users. The one I just added that made me think of blogging about it is #include statements. Wonder what's in that include file you #include'ing? Well move the cursor to the statement and hit F3. Bingo, there's the include file (at least as long as the index knows where it is). I look forward to adding more cool features like that.
Thursday, April 12, 2007
Microsoft is making my Linux fonts ugly
Well, the reason Windows looks better is their ClearType technology. After reading the article I tried turning it off, and sure enough, Windows sucked too.
Apparently the fuss over ClearType and FreeType, Linux's font technology, has to deal with patents that Microsoft holds on the techniques behind ClearType. With all the anti-Novell/Microsoft clauses in the GPLv3 dealing with patent protection and the essential prohibition on it, I've lost all hope. Despite what Richard Stallman may wish, Microsoft will likely never extend patent protection on ClearType to all of the Linux community which means they will have to pick the other route, i.e. to none of the community.
Which is really too bad. As much as I thank the FSF and GPL for giving us all those great GNU tools, I'm afraid that their conviction to ideals will also stunt the growth of open source, and especially Linux. The FSF may hate software patents, but they are a fact of life. And if the two worlds can't mix, then the poor user pays a price, one way or the other.
Oh, I hate Cygwin
First of all, it was a bit tricky to set up the build environment. I'm using Cygwin since Firefox would really rather be built on Linux, or in a convoluted environment that involves using Cygwin but the Microsoft tool chain, which the CDT doesn't really have support for yet. Luckily I found a web page that showed how to set it up to use the cygwin compilers. It's a little out of date but a few tweaks and I was able to get Firefox built.
Now I'm trying to get the build output into the CDT so that our cool Scanner Discovery feature can parse it and set up the include paths and symbols for the indexer. That's been tricky since the Firefox build wrapped all calls to gcc with a wrapper script which deals with converting paths, I guess. I've got that fixed, but now the source file paths used by Firefox uses the cygwin paths, i.e. /cygdrive/..., which our build output parser doesn't understand. So I'll have to introduce a new parser that does the cygpath conversion.
We've had a lot of bug reports lately on cygwin. Most of them have to do with the cygwin developers deciding not to support Windows path names any more, you know, the good ol' C:\blah. I guess understand their reasoning. Cygwin is meant to be a Linux emulation environment on Windows. I don't think that was their original intention since Cygwin actually predates all this Linux popularity, but that's what it has turned into (and even their web site now says so).
The issue for the CDT is that it isn't running under the cygwin environment. It can only deal with Windows paths. So whenever we see a cygwin path, we need to convert it. Not only that, when generating makefiles for cygwin make, we need to convert Windows paths to cygwin paths. Now, we can't do that for everything on Windows since tools like MinGW gcc does use Windows paths. It's pure evil (well maybe not that evil...)
So what this really means is that supporting Cygwin with the CDT is becoming a lot of work. This is one of the reasons I want to start promoting MinGW, a much more Windows friendly port of the gnu tool chain, as the gnu environment of choice on Windows. The problem, though, is that cygwin is very popular and easier to install and seems to have much more momentum than mingw. So we will need to continue to support both. But I'd sure like to see more of that momentum shift to MinGW. Which, in open source, that means I need to do more to help them.
Wednesday, April 11, 2007
Ada Project at Eclipse
So, why Ada? Funny enough, googling "Why Ada" returns a number of articles on that subject. This is something the Ada community has struggled with for quite a while. But from my point of view, it all comes down to writing safe code. Ada is a huge language and much of it has to do with making as hard as possible to write bad code. Code like "while (i++) *i = 42;" isn't possible. This is particularly of importance with embedded systems where flaws like this could be costly, very costly.
But Ada has also suffered from the stigma of bureaucracy. The fact that it was designed by committee for the U.S. Department of Defense (who has since dropped it as a requirement) doesn't help. Also the reference manual reads like a legal document, and there are few books out there to explain it to us regular Joe's.
From my perspective, though, I think the biggest problem with Ada has been the lack of an open source community around it. GNAT, the GNU Ada compiler has been around a while, but it isn't very straighforward to use with it's own build system. But gdb works fine with it for debug.
So, in the past, I've tried to drum up interest in Ada as an extension of the CDT at Eclipse. Aonix and AdaCore are two vendors that have done it commercially. I was thrilled when Aonix approached me about starting up such a project. And I really hope that other Ada tool vendors join in on the fun.
High quality open source solutions available to everyone really helps with growth at the grassroots level. Many universities and colleges are using the CDT for their coursework because it is freely available. The same could happen with the Eclipse ADT. But to ensure high quality, a community has to form around it to share in the work. Most Eclipse projects benefit from the spirit of "co-opetition", competitors working together for the common good of the market. This could grow the Ada market which would mean they could sell more professional tools and support. Such is the economic wheel that keeps Eclipse going and we'll see if the Ada market can do the same.
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
Final Thoughts on ESC
The thing I found disappointing, though, was the profile and location of some of the companies I think are the innovators at the moment. Timesys was one. They were involved in the CDT in the early days. They've since changed their business model from a straight embedded Linux distribution vendor to a service organization for do-it-yourself'ers. I thought it was innovative, but their booth was tiny and really tucked away and hard to find. (Mind you not much smaller and tucked away than the Eclipse booth - just kidding Ian :)
The other was CodeSourcery. I ran across these guys on the Web when investigating gnu-based ARM toolchains to play with qemu. The more I ran into their name, the more interested in their business model I became. They contribute a lot to open source, especially with the gnu toolchain (gcc, gdb). I also see then contributing to qemu for the ARM and other target support. I don't know a lot about their internal structure, but they must be doing well. Their booth was still outside the main hall but I noticed every time I walked by they were talking to potential customers. Unfortunately, I didn't have time to drop by myself to find out more. On the surface, though, they really look like a great example of an "open source business". And, they call their developers "Sourcerers". How cool is that...
But as I've stated in the past. I really think the model for all embedded companies has to, and in a lot of cases already is moving to a more service oriented approach. As Doug Gaff mentioned, the problems embedded developers are trying to solve is getting harder and harder. It is just plain too hard and expensive to hire full-time experts in every area you need. We'll see over the years if this turns out to be true and we start finding those companies hidden outside the main hall inside with their own smiling Marilyn Monroes to scan your badge.
Friday, April 06, 2007
ESC is over, bring on gdb JTAG.
One thing a few people asked me about this week was the Zylin Embedded CDT plug-in that a few vendors are starting to use in their commercial products. It essentially supports debugging using JTAG devices that use gdb as their debug engine. Those who have been around for a while have heard of Øyvind from Zylin who has been trying to get his changes into the CDT proper. For various reasons, those changes have been rejected.
But I think it's time to take a serious look at this and see if we can address his issues while maintaining current functionality. Having forks of the CDT is bad for the community, and is really bad for those vendors that have to use them because it has the potential to limit further integration possibilities, especially if APIs are changed. The objective should be to make everyone happy. Sometimes that's not possible, but in this case I think it is. And I'm making it my mission for the rest of CDT 4 to do my best to make that happen.
Thursday, April 05, 2007
Getting ready to go on stage
I had a couple of great conversations yesterday that will hopefully lead to CDT contributions. I'm still pleasantly surprised at all the people who drop by the booth who already use Eclipse or who know that they really need to be using it. That gives me a great feeling that the grassroots around Eclipse for embedded is already taking off. And I guess, when you look at the other choices, it probably should be of no surprise.
I also did a walk about yesterday trying to find booths that had Eclipse running. There were the regulars which had it front and center. And there were a few surprises. Ian found a few. And I was found a couple of more, including a surprise at the MIPS booth. This is happening to me quite often in the last year or so and it is really cool to see. It would be nice if these guys felt comfortable enough to let us know when they are using Eclipse. It is open source so they don't have to. But part of my job is to promote the CDT to get as many contributions as I can and I'd really like to show the momentum of the CDT in the industry. Which is pretty clear from my experience here at ESC, this it is growing quite well in the embedded space.
Wednesday, April 04, 2007
ESC Day 1
I spent a few hours at the Eclipse booth. As I mentioned in my last entry, I was pretty disappointed in the size and the location of the booth. But I was pleasantly surprised at the number of people who walked by and said they were starting to use Eclipse. I think by my account, most people who did walk by had something to say, which was pretty cool.
A person from a trade journal from India stopped by and I had a nice talk with her. She mentioned that all of Bangalore was using the CDT. That's a lot of software developers! I also had a couple of people who were wondering about extending the CDT for the specific needs of their projects. And I had a guy walk by and gave us a woo-hoo. I guess he likes what we're doing.
Talking with Ian, it is clear we need to find a good way to get publicize everything and start building a community around embedded. Doug Gaff and the people participating in DSDP have done a great job at getting the big players in the market involved. But I'm a grassroots kind of guy and I think there is also opportunity to get the word out to the average Joe.
My idea is to revive a tutorial someone had written about using the CDT to build a tiny app for an ARM7 chip that had no operating system and just ran on the bare metal. I'm doing work in CDT 4 to support gdb debugging with JTAG so it's perfect timing. And this was affirmed by a couple of conversations I had with guys looking for exactly that. So I'll work with Ian to get a webinar or something together, so stay tuned...
Tuesday, April 03, 2007
Hello from ESC Silicon Valley
Now, I need to thank Ian Skerret for setting up the Eclipse booth and to those that helped set up meetings with members of the trade press. And no disrespect to the Eclipse Foundation, but the Eclipse booth is pretty tiny. We talked about this at EclipseCon in the Embedded panel and I again put forth the challenge...
Eclipse is an important force in the embedded industry. Unless my Google Alerts are making up stuff, more and more embedded vendors are taking advantage of the power and flexibility of Eclipse as the foundation of their tools offerings. But Eclipse is successful because of the vendors and developers that contribute to it. Eclipse had a huge marketing impact in the Enterprise market because of the huge vendors that promoted it.
We need to see the same thing in the embedded space. We need to take that ground swell in the grassroots and promote Eclipse as the phenomenon that it is. This will go a long way towards encouraging those that are using Eclipse to contribute back and help convince more vendors to join the community. Those of us who got in early, did so because we saw the vision of what Eclipse can do in the embedded space. It's time to start shouting about it!
Friday, March 30, 2007
Get your swim suit on
Here's what you do. Go to Google maps and click get directions. Start from somewhere in North America and end somewhere in Europe.
The directions will guide you to Long Wharf in Boston and then instruct you to "Swim across the Atlantic Ocean", which apparently is 5572 kilometers. You then get out of the water in La Havre, France, and continue on your way.
I love the sense of humour software developers have. I can imagine the design discussions around putting this feature in. I'm sure they're still laughing about it, just like we are now. Now, what can we do with the CDT, hmm...
Thursday, March 29, 2007
GPLv3, freedom at what price?
But one thing that has struck me as I dig into it and read others' comments on it, is that the view of freedom put forth by Richard Stallman and the FSF may actually turn detrimental to the community instead of helping it.
There is no doubt that open source is successful today because of the GPL. The freedom for users to be able to download, possibly modify, build, and run their code is really what got a lot of developers involved in open source to begin with. And that momentum has grown and the qualify of the open source code has grown to become a serious force in the industry. But that all started in the day when most open source users were developers.
The issue I have is that the FSF does not differentiate between user and developer. But when it comes to critical systems, especially in the embedded space, I'm not sure users even want that freedom. While having GPL code in my TV is cool and I'm glad the manufacturer was able to take advantage of it, and theoretically ended up with good code cheaper than if they would have licensed something. And hopefully the developers contributed back to those open source projects to make them even better. But the last thing I want to do as a user is change that code, even though I know I could.
So while the GPLv3 tries everything in its power to ensure that the user can modify the code, my fear is that it will handcuff the developers working on this code. It's not free to them to make sure the user gets everything they need to do the modification. The manufactures can't charge for the code, but you can be sure device prices will go up if they need to ship an SDK and hardware with it.
GPL in embedded devices has always been a tricky subject, and GPLv3 seems to make it even trickier. I'm not sure the FSF is willing to listen to the concerns of embedded manufacturers, but I sure hope someone is making noise.
